recording

[peterbyrnes218]

I am about to get started purchasing what is needed to start recording on a pc. I understand I need and interface and some sort of a DAW as well as headphones and speaker monitors. My main question is this: I generally do not nor do I know how to create backing tracks. My plan is to be able to somehow import the audio from backing tracks on BGU or youtube or some other private site where there is no availability of wav files / etc. In the limited research I have done it looks like that may be difficult to do. However, I have seen one youtube video using audacity and spliting a screen between youtube backing track and audicity and playing the youtube video to record it. Not sure that would work with other private web sites. My other option is to just upgrade my older 8 track roland recorded and use that. Anybody have any experience with this?

thx

 

[PapaRaptor]

This topic comes up every now and then. Youtube (especially) tends to make this a moving target. Every time someone comes out with software to download videos, Google manages to get in the mix and squelch it, either by putting code in their video software container to sabotage it or with threats of lawsuits. Having said that, there is certainly a demand for such software.

Here is a link to an article from PC Magazine that is updated frequently. The article lists whatever they can find that works at the moment.

How to Download YouTube Videos

There are dozens of different ways to download YouTube videos so you can view them offline. Here are a few of the easiest and most effective methods

www.pcmag.com

Also, we had a thread recently on the forum about this subject with a lot of input from forum members.

Video Surgeon

I am having no success in being able to download a video to use in the Video Surgeon. I think I opted for the You Tube downloader, but I can't seem to get that to work either. I am using Windows 10, and my browser is Google (not Google Chrome). Has anyone else had these issues, or can offer...

bluesguitarunleashed.com

As to the part about using backing tracks, I don't know of any DAW software that doesn't allow importing either MP3 or WAV files and allow you to separately record one or more tracks in sync with the backing track.

I'm a big advocate of Presonus Studio One software for four reasons:
1. Studio One Prime is free. If you need to progress beyond what the free software supports, all working knowledge you have of Prime directly transfers to the two upgrade options, Studio One Artist and Pro.
2. We have quite a few members of the forum with good working knowledge of the software. Since we are all doing similar activites, it is more than likely any question you would have, especially as a beginner will find a quick answer within the forum.
3. There are hundreds, if not thousands of training and how-to videos on Youtube for Studio One.
4. If you buy a Presonus interface (other than their very basic Audiobox GO!) you will also receive a license for Studio One Artist, which is normally a $99 purchase. That license affords you a significant discount if you decide later to upgrade to Studio One Pro.

 

[peterbyrnes218]

This topic comes up every now and then. Youtube (especially) tends to make this a moving target. Every time someone comes out with software to download videos, Google manages to get in the mix and squelch it, either by putting code in their video software container to sabotage it or with threats of lawsuits. Having said that, there is certainly a demand for such software.

Here is a link to an article from PC Magazine that is updated frequently. The article lists whatever they can find that works at the moment.

How to Download YouTube Videos

There are dozens of different ways to download YouTube videos so you can view them offline. Here are a few of the easiest and most effective methods

www.pcmag.com

Also, we had a thread recently on the forum about this subject with a lot of input from forum members.

Video Surgeon

I am having no success in being able to download a video to use in the Video Surgeon. I think I opted for the You Tube downloader, but I can't seem to get that to work either. I am using Windows 10, and my browser is Google (not Google Chrome). Has anyone else had these issues, or can offer...

bluesguitarunleashed.com

As to the part about using backing tracks, I don't know of any DAW software that doesn't allow importing either MP3 or WAV files and allow you to separately record one or more tracks in sync with the backing track.

I'm a big advocate of Presonus Studio One software for four reasons:
1. Studio One Prime is free. If you need to progress beyond what the free software supports, all working knowledge you have of Prime directly transfers to the two upgrade options, Studio One Artist and Pro.
2. We have quite a few members of the forum with good working knowledge of the software. Since we are all doing similar activites, it is more than likely any question you would have, especially as a beginner will find a quick answer within the forum.
3. There are hundreds, if not thousands of training and how-to videos on Youtube for Studio One.
4. If you buy a Presonus interface (other than their very basic Audiobox GO!) you will also receive a license for Studio One Artist, which is normally a $99 purchase. That license affords you a significant discount if you decide later to upgrade to Studio One Pro.

Ths so much - so , just to be clear, can you somehow load the BGU jam tracks into studio one. I don't see any way to do anything with them other than play them on my pc. I am open to studio one or any other DAW that can do this. I can play over the jam tracks but I can't record over them which is what I am trying to accomplish. Youtube is also something that i am interested in and will read the pc mag article.

thx

 

[PapaRaptor]

Ths so much - so , just to be clear, can you somehow load the BGU jam tracks into studio one. I don't see any way to do anything with them other than play them on my pc. I am open to studio one or any other DAW that can do this. I can play over the jam tracks but I can't record over them which is what I am trying to accomplish. Youtube is also something that i am interested in and will read the pc mag article.

thx

You can do this with Studio One or just about any other DAW available. A couple of years ago, I made a video specifically about taking a backing track from the Virtual Jam Room and recording. What you want to do is basically the same thing. You can find that video here. If you're not going to be using the VJR recordings at this point, you can skip the first minute and 40 seconds of the video:

Recording in the VJR using Studio One

This demonstrates how to record a solo against a backing track from the Blues Guitar Unleashed forum's Virtual Jam Room.Using Studio One Version 5 Profession...

youtu.be

This should demonstrate what you want to do as far as recording. Studio One will import MP3, M4a, WAV and a bunch of other audio file protocols.

 

[peterbyrnes218]

You can do this with Studio One or just about any other DAW available. A couple of years ago, I made a video specifically about taking a backing track from the Virtual Jam Room and recording. What you want to do is basically the same thing. You can find that video here. If you're not going to be using the VJR recordings at this point, you can skip the first minute and 40 seconds of the video:

Recording in the VJR using Studio One

This demonstrates how to record a solo against a backing track from the Blues Guitar Unleashed forum's Virtual Jam Room.Using Studio One Version 5 Profession...

youtu.be

This should demonstrate what you want to do as far as recording. Studio One will import MP3, M4a, WAV and a bunch of other audio file protocols.

ok, so I follow that for the virtual jam room. What about the BGU jam tracks like 5x5 blues jam tracks or Ultilimate blues jams vol 2 or 8 bar blues jams? I don't think there is a way to save any of those files. Ultimate blues jams has files you can save but i think it is the only set of jam tracks that does.

thx

 

[artyman]

I use Audacity [it's free ;-) ] and one of the choices is to record from your PC speakers, so I just set a You Tube video playing and record the track, there are masses of backing tracks available on there. My Guitar amplifier has a USB out which is picked up in Audacity and can thus record what I play. Having recorded and saved the track from You Tube, I load this into Audacity, create another track to record the guitar, and then just play the backing track and attempt to play something decent. Here's a YT video on using Audacity https://youtu.be/yzJ2VyYkmaA

 

[sdbrit68]

Not so sure I would worry about investing in all that right away. Meaning there are free DAW's that do a good job to cut your teeth on and more. Later on if you find it is a serious hobby and you enjoy it, then start looking at paid software, between us all here we probably have experience with at least 15 or so to speak too.

Headphones, yeah, but, in the beginning, I would not say you need to invest in super expensive. Personally my Tascam 300's I love. Since I have gotten into mixing and mastering I have upgraded my headphones and only recently bought studio monitors (Now that I have a proper room to use them in). If it is currently just you planning to record some licks on a backing track, that is one set up, if a full band, thats another.

You could get some decent headphones under $100 and something like this

PreSonus | Guitar Center

Shop for the PreSonus in and receive free shipping and guaranteed lowest price.

www.guitarcenter.com

 

[peterbyrnes218]

I use Audacity [it's free ;-) ] and one of the choices is to record from your PC speakers, so I just set a You Tube video playing and record the track, there are masses of backing tracks available on there. My Guitar amplifier has a USB out which is picked up in Audacity and can thus record what I play. Having recorded and saved the track from You Tube, I load this into Audacity, create another track to record the guitar, and then just play the backing track and attempt to play something decent. Here's a YT video on using Audacity https://youtu.be/yzJ2VyYkmaA

thx - good video

 

[peterbyrnes218]

Not so sure I would worry about investing in all that right away. Meaning there are free DAW's that do a good job to cut your teeth on and more. Later on if you find it is a serious hobby and you enjoy it, then start looking at paid software, between us all here we probably have experience with at least 15 or so to speak too.

Headphones, yeah, but, in the beginning, I would not say you need to invest in super expensive. Personally my Tascam 300's I love. Since I have gotten into mixing and mastering I have upgraded my headphones and only recently bought studio monitors (Now that I have a proper room to use them in). If it is currently just you planning to record some licks on a backing track, that is one set up, if a full band, thats another.

You could get some decent headphones under $100 and something like this

PreSonus | Guitar Center

Shop for the PreSonus in and receive free shipping and guaranteed lowest price.

www.guitarcenter.com

thx - agreed

 

[CaptainMoto]

You can record audio from a YouTube vid or anything esle on the internet if your interface has “Loop Back”

Loopback Explained: What Is Audio Loopback? - inSync

A loopback routes in-app audio back into an interface’s inputs to be used in a different app. Looking to use loopback audio in your productions? Learn more here.

www.sweetwater.com

 

[peterbyrnes218]

You can record audio from a YouTube vid if your interface has “Loop Back”

Loopback Explained: What Is Audio Loopback? - inSync

A loopback routes in-app audio back into an interface’s inputs to be used in a different app. Looking to use loopback audio in your productions? Learn more here.

www.sweetwater.com

perfect - thanks

 

[peterbyrnes218]

You can record audio from a YouTube vid if your interface has “Loop Back”

Loopback Explained: What Is Audio Loopback? - inSync

A loopback routes in-app audio back into an interface’s inputs to be used in a different app. Looking to use loopback audio in your productions? Learn more here.

www.sweetwater.com

what interface do you use?

 

[MarkDyson]

Just a possibly related note. If you can run Python and you're even slightly savvy about running command line apps, there's a script that perfectly emulates a video call (for YouTube as well as other providers) and lets you download the file instead of streaming it. This might be a totally foreign language to some but if not it might be useful. YT (and other providers) can only do so much without making it impossible to serve video online.

Here's a link to the GitHub repo for the latest and greatest, and it gets updated on a regular basis.

GitHub - yt-dlp/yt-dlp: A feature-rich command-line audio/video downloader

A feature-rich command-line audio/video downloader - yt-dlp/yt-dlp

github.com

 

[CaptainMoto]

what interface do you use?

RME Fireface UFX II​

 

[peterbyrnes218]

Just a possibly related note. If you can run Python and you're even slightly savvy about running command line apps, there's a script that perfectly emulates a video call (for YouTube as well as other providers) and lets you download the file instead of streaming it. This might be a totally foreign language to some but if not it might be useful. YT (and other providers) can only do so much without making it impossible to serve video online.

Here's a link to the GitHub repo for the latest and greatest, and it gets updated on a regular basis.

GitHub - yt-dlp/yt-dlp: A feature-rich command-line audio/video downloader

A feature-rich command-line audio/video downloader - yt-dlp/yt-dlp

github.com

thx

 

[PapaRaptor]

ok, so I follow that for the virtual jam room. What about the BGU jam tracks like 5x5 blues jam tracks or Ultilimate blues jams vol 2 or 8 bar blues jams? I don't think there is a way to save any of those files. Ultimate blues jams has files you can save but i think it is the only set of jam tracks that does.

thx

With all due respect, those are courses and the Ultimate Jam Tracks are behind a pay wall and are part of how Griff makes a living. Jam tracks are available for download with purchase of a course package. Membership in the All Access Program does not give you license to download any of the jam tracks. Griff has tried to make this a bit simpler by offering the Golden Ticket, which allows you to take ownership of a course, which adds value to the AAP. Any course you own via the Golden Ticket will allow you to download the backing tracks. Also, a new Golden Ticket will begin to accrue as soon as you redeem one, so it is possible for you to receive another Golden Ticket within (I believe) about every 60 days.

 

[MarkDyson]

As a rank and file member of BGU, I'd like to piggyback on that with a hearty endorsement for becoming an All Access Pass member, if you are not already. I truly value the full online-only access to all of the courses Griff has to offer, and the pace of the Golden Ticket enabling me to selectively download a course for offline access every 60 days is huge.

 

[peterbyrnes218]

With all due respect, those are courses and the Ultimate Jam Tracks are behind a pay wall and are part of how Griff makes a living. Jam tracks are available for download with purchase of a course package. Membership in the All Access Program does not give you license to download any of the jam tracks. Griff has tried to make this a bit simpler by offering the Golden Ticket, which allows you to take ownership of a course, which adds value to the AAP. Any course you own via the Golden Ticket will allow you to download the backing tracks. Also, a new Golden Ticket will begin to accrue as soon as you redeem one, so it is possible for you to receive another Golden Ticket within (I believe) about every 60 days.

perfect I am an all access member. That is why i have the downloaded files for one of them because i purchased it. just did not know why the files were on it and none of the others. . That works.
thx

 

[peterbyrnes218]

As a rank and file member of BGU, I'd like to piggyback on that with a hearty endorsement for becoming an All Access Pass member, if you are not already. I truly value the full online-only access to all of the courses Griff has to offer, and the pace of the Golden Ticket enabling me to selectively download a course for offline access every 60 days is huge.

yes, i already am

 

[cowboy]

My DAW's are Studio One and Audacity (free & simple/easy to use with minimal learning curve)...

Interface...I use PreSonus because it works well with Studio One but there are good choices for cheap money...search SW...

as for downloading video's or backing tracks I suggest checking out Wondershare UniConverter 15...it will do youTube either as MP4 or MP3's...but start with Griff's backing tracks and create your own "backing track" file...later.

cowboy