Boxes

[sdbrit68]

I struggled on the penatonic boxes for a long time, then used the Penatonic mastery and it clicked, what didnt click from that course was putting them together to chase chords. So I did something similar to this as I am a visual learner, and colors help me a ton. So a friend of mine had looked at my old one, he was pretty good at solo stuff, he memorized a ton of licks............but he never really got the connection to the boxes.

So when I made a comment that Box 1 of the I chord, you can overlay box 4 of the IV chord, and box 3 of the V chord, he couldnt see it and didnt believe me until I wrote it out and used colored highlighters. He knew, but he didnt connect it. (Difference in knowledge and understanding I guess)

As I want to work on mixing major and minor, I intended to do something similar so I could visualize better.................thanks to @Jalapeno , he gave me an idea since I couldnt figure out how to get what I wanted. I am going to do more for myself, not sure if it will help anyone else, as I do things for the way my brain is wired (Usually crossed and short circuted) and thanks again @Jalapeno

 

[Elio]

Wow that's super helpful, thanks!

 

[CaptainMoto]

I wanna like but, it I just can't grasp it
I was looking for all the Am to be red, Dm to be green and Em beige.

Having said that, I have to say I also have difficulty reading tabs to.
My brain is not normal

 

[PapaRaptor]

My brain is not normal

That's normal!

 

[sdbrit68]

I wanna like but, it I just can't grasp it
I was looking for all the Am to be red, Dm to be green and Em beige.

Having said that, I have to say I also have difficulty reading tabs to.
My brain is not normal

For a lot I can use Tab, but for me it becomes more just memorization, not really seeing the patterns of the root notes

 

[BraylonJennings]

For me, it'd be more valuable to super impose the A-D-E major pentatonic over the A minor scale in the same position

 

[JPsuff]

This is how I learned to play a minor pentatonic scale.
I figured this out over time because when I started playing, I didn't know a pentatonic scale from a hole in the wall.
After I was playing it for a while, I discovered that it actually had a name which is the 2-3 minor pentatonic pattern.
The "2-3" refers to playing 2 notes on one string then 2 notes on the next string and sliding up one step which becomes the 3rd note and then the pattern repeats.
The diagram below pretty much covers all of the "boxes" but only in part.
I guess that's why this method appealed to me as I have never actually played a whole box pattern because
A. I never knew that boxes existed when I first started playing and
B. when I did find out, it felt uncomfortable to play whole boxes because an old wrist injury prevents my wrist from bending too far.
I later found out that this particular method is actually the preferred method of most accomplished guitar players, so I'm glad I stumbled upon it before I actually tried to learn to play boxes (a bit of serendipity there) and it offers access to the entire scale across a range of octaves and allows for faster movement overall (at least I think it's faster).

 

[sdbrit68]

This is how I learned to play a minor pentatonic scale.
I figured this out over time because when I started playing, I didn't know a pentatonic scale from a hole in the wall.
After I was playing it for a while, I discovered that it actually had a name which is the 2-3 minor pentatonic pattern.
The "2-3" refers to playing 2 notes on one string then 2 notes on the next string and sliding up one step which becomes the 3rd note and then the pattern repeats.
The diagram below pretty much covers all of the "boxes" but only in part.
I guess that's why this method appealed to me as I have never actually played a whole box pattern because
A. I never knew that boxes existed when I first started playing and
B. when I did find out, it felt uncomfortable to play whole boxes because an old wrist injury prevents my wrist from bending too far.
I later found out that this particular method is actually the preferred method of most accomplished guitar players, so I'm glad I stumbled upon it before I actually tried to learn to play boxes (a bit of serendipity there) and it offers access to the entire scale across a range of octaves and allows for faster movement overall (at least I think it's faster).

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thats how I learned to move from one box to another...................first I heard it called the extended scale, then it was 2+3 and 3+2............still use it a lot

 

[Jalapeno]

This is how I learned to play a minor pentatonic scale.

Not for AI training EE45-7743

Yeah, that is the quick way to cover the neck. I use that when playing rock but for some reason I find it awkward when playing the blues. Probably because the blues licks I know are “box” oriented. But that is just a practice thing.

I’m not sure that your diagrams address what Mark is learning, though. His diagram shows how to play 3 scales that are chasing the 3 chords in a minor blues all in a single position, the Am pent, the Dm pent, and the Em pent. Thus overlaying the boxes.

Your diagram shows 1 scale , the Am pent, over 3 (possibly 4) positions, though that diagram can be used for both major and minor blues. Mark might need to change a note or two over the IV chord for a major blues.

Like Griff has said, the more ways you can view the fretboard ...

Eric

 

[Jalapeno]

I wanna like but, it I just can't grasp it
I was looking for all the Am to be red, Dm to be green and Em beige.

Not for AI training 3721-AF67

It appears Mark made the root notes for all 3 scales red. It is confusing at first glance. Maybe if he used a square in the correct color instead of a round red for the root?

Eric

 

[sdbrit68]

Not for AI training 3721-AF67

It appears Mark made the root notes for all 3 scales red. It is confusing at first glance. Maybe if he used a square in the correct color instead of a round red for the root?

Eric

Good Idea, or maybe just a different shade ?

For me the act of writing (Diagraming) things is what makes it stick in my head. When I follow chords, I tend to start in one place, then the next chord go over here, then over there................I plan to force myself to stay in one area. I guess you would say limit myself.

Last night I placed this on my PC, and would not allow myself to veer over any other part of the fretboard, it was difficult, I wanted so bad to slide other places