Norfolk Bill
norfolk uk, just knoodling along
it doesnt read the post properly hes on about playing an F bar chord at the first fret using the E shape
In both examples?it doesnt read the post properly hes on about playing an F bar chord at the first fret using the E shape
box 1 or 2 ?Boxes and cages! Blues zoo? It's been a clever ploy by Griff to makes us think he was "unleashing" us, only to get us to run right into his trap, and now we're boxed and caged!
I guess that was confusing. What I was trying to say, once you see that all the chord shapes can be barred, or played in "little" versions, you can move a chord progression around the neck in different keys, but the relationships between the chord shapes stay the same..The CAGED system is usually presented with major chords, most of them have barre chord versions. It works as well with minor chords, Cm and Gm might not have a easy barre form, but the connections between the chords using the root work the same way. The minor pentatonic boxes also fall under the chords.
For a I IV V progression, you could use (in any key)
E shape, A shape, A shape 2 frets up
C shape F shape (actually the E shape) E shape 2 frets up,
or C shape, F shape, and G shape with the root on the 6th string same fret as the root on the 5th
I guess that was confusing. What I was trying to say, once you see that all the chord shapes can be barred, or played in "little" versions, you can move a chord progression around the neck in different keys, but the relationships between the chord shapes stay the same..
So if you took the progression C F G down at the nut and then moved it up the neck, (and barre where needed) you could get for example in key of E
E X76454 the I using a "C form"
A 577655 the IV using a "E form"
B 764447 the V using a "G form" ( this one probably wouldn't play all the lower notes- it's quite a stretch,but shows you where the "little" versions of the chord come from.
I hope I got all those numbers right- working from my head, no guitar in hand.
None of the above include a 7th, but you should be able to figure that out
The CAGED concept is more about being able to quickly find all the voicings/shapes of a chord all over the neck. I.e., if you're looking for an A, how many and where are they?
I have just gone through the entire course with differing degrees of depth on different sections.
I found the discussion of chord formulation, ( minor, 7th etc.) very interesting and useful.
The section on chord progressions is useful and expands nicely with the minors. I suppose people at our level are prone to pick out the chord shapes we are most comfortable with. (avoiding the D, I settled on the 3 finger version )
The endless arpeggios are mind numbing. This section could use additional explanation and demonstration of practical use. Maybe I'm blinded by scales and boxes.
I made a leap of faith, went completely through it and I'm waiting to see the light. For now I have set the course aside.
I'm not giving up now as I have too much time in it but I don't know how to best approach it . I have never given up on a Griff course.
Help? Encouragement ?
First. I don't have the course. But here's my take on the whole CAGED thing. I may be repeating some things I said above.
1. I view CAGED as a handy memory device for seeing how the the same chord can be played all over the neck using different "chord shapes". Probably the most familiar example is playing an A chord using an "E shape" with a barre on the 5th fret.
2. There's nothing special about starting with the C shape. If you start with A, the next chord shape up the neck (which is the same chord) has a G shape, and the next one (again the same chord) has an E shape. Don't confuse the chord with the shape! The familiar barred E shape can be a G chord at the 3rd fret, and A chord at the 5th fret, a C chord at the 8th fret, etc.But all are "E shape".
3. The pattern repeats. For a D shape, the next chord up the neck will be a C shape (again, same chord, new shape in new position). CAGED is easy to remember. But GEDCA or EDCAG have the same information about how the shapes connect.
4. Often the full 6-string version of the shape will not be used. The G shape and the D shape come to mind. But you can use the full shape to visualize and see where the notes of a "little" version of the chord come from. Also where you might find the 7th in that shape, or a sus4 or hammer-ons and pull-offs that work in that shape.
Hope this made some sense.
Do you have the course or the free videos? Because it's explained there.
@MikeS I've been hunting around for more info on caged unleashed. Anyone have links to the videos that were put out prior to its release?
I thought there would have been videos on the sales page of the course catalogue but doesn't appear to be.
This?
http://bluesguitarunleashed.com/get-caged-unleashed/
Or, I have six emails archived about CAGED:
http://bluesguitarunleashed.com/open-e-tuning-slide-using-caged-members/
http://bluesguitarunleashed.com/how-to-make-any-chord
http://bluesguitarunleashed.com/the-5-chord-shapes/
http://bluesguitarunleashed.com/soloing-with-the-chords/
This has been moved from "CAGED Theory" thread.
What is the train of thought to lock on to the closest form of the next chord I want to play? Is it to go to the nearest root note of that chord and grab the left or right facing version? If so, I have a way to go because I still need to think about which fret is which note.
See you down the road!