Well, that claim covered pretty much the whole song, not just the intro - and I think was more justified than a "descending A minor chromatic fingerpicked intro".I think this one is even more frivolous than Joe Satriani's suit against Coldplay about 8 years ago. That one alleged that Coldplay's "Viva La Vida" infringed on Satriani's "If I Could Fly."
No doubt Page/Plant weren't crediting the songs - but they were mostly ripping off Willie Dixon, who had himself ripped off the songs by just penciling in his name as the author!I think this suit is based on the fact that Page and Plant have been so careless about ripping off the old blues masters, that their character is already suspect.
Well, that claim covered pretty much the whole song, not just the intro - and I think was more justified than a "descending A minor chromatic fingerpicked intro".
No doubt Page/Plant weren't crediting the songs - but they were mostly ripping off Willie Dixon, who had himself ripped off the songs by just penciling in his name as the author!
Kevin
I wrote a letter in 1982, and J.K. Rowling used 3 of the same words I used in that letter when she wrote Harry Potter. Can I sue her?
After watching that - what's your opinion?
Kevin
My opinion is that, as usual, musicians are clueless. Apparently, and I admit to not watching his follow up videos which might address this, Mr. TJR never heard of the Blurred Lines law suit.
Or you could go back a bit further and listen to Muddy Water's version. I'm not sure if the name of the song by Muddy was "Whole Lotta Love" or not but it is the same tune and lyrics.My opinion is that, as usual, musicians are clueless. Apparently, and I admit to not watching his follow up videos which might address this, Mr. TJR never heard of the Blurred Lines law suit.
Mr. TJR needs to do more than just musical analysis to understand copyright infringement.
Now, throwing this out for discussion, watch these videos
Led Zepplin from 1969
Small Faces from 1966
After listening to that, what's your opinion of Jimmy Page as a song writer?
Anybody got a copyright on the 1-4-5 pattern?
At most you could say Page may have been influenced by the song. Maybe he had heard it a while before and thought it an interesting concept to explore. However the rest of the songs are so different I don't think the whole work can be seen as plagiarised. My BMW is black should they pay copyright to Henry ford for the concept of black cars?
cheers
Al.
I watched the video again and I don't believe that TJR rendered an opinion as to whether or not it was plagiarized. He simply compared the two from a musical standpoint, not a legal standpoint. I wouldn't label him as clueless.
Well, I respect your opinion but the Blurred Lines verdict shows that the musical standpoint is not fixed in stone. I think musicians need to stop thinking the music business is about music. It never has been. Of course, that's my opinion, but based on a fair amount of research.
I was refering to Stairway and Taurus not Whole lotta love.Well, it's more than that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whole_Lotta_Love
You sure got that right Kevin. Long ago, my company was involved in a trivial employment lawsuit. Our attorney said that "we couldn't lose".And if anybody has dealt with the courts much - facts and truth have nothing to do with the final verdicts - it's a coin toss by either a judge or jury, who don't have to have expertise in a subject matter to decide it...
Kevin